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eyebrows to let you know what points are very important to him. >> so let's go to photos of obama and boehner from the first and only face-to-face meeting on fiscal cliff talks since the election. start with boehner, raising his eyebrow, what does that tell you? >> he's got a critical eye. he's going, i'm watching you. and so his eyes go off to the side with that little critical eye. you see it lifting up on that left-hand corner. >> okay. let's switch gears here. there's a photo of mitt romney. this is the one i really wanted you to look at. mitt romney having lunch at the white house this week. bitter rivals now trying to make nice, at least for a photo op. what does this photo tell you -- how is president obama treating the man he just beat? >> well, let me share something with you. this was a painful picture to look at because you can see he's actually having an emotional reaction -- >> do we have the picture -- there it is. let's put the picture up. i'm sorry, susan, go ahead. >> his chin wrinkles up -- this is not the clip. we were talking about the boehner one we just had.
in the negotiations if there were negotiations. president obama and speaker john boehner actually talked to one another. it was on the telephone. it was not the face-to-face meeting the speaker says is necessary, but it was the first time that the two men have spoken in a week. for the latest on these stalled negotiations, we turn to fox news chief white house correspondent ed henry for the report. >> trying to lay blame for stalled budget talks on republicans, president obama today wratcheted up pressure on boehner. >> nobody wants this done more than me. >> for the first time, plan for massive spending cuts from going over the fiscal cliff warning business executives, the economy could take another hit if republicans decide to extend just to middle class tax cuts to avoid the cliff for now and come back next year with more leverage to tie spending cuts and medicare reform to another hike in the nation's debt ceiling. >> we're not going to play that game next year. if congress, in any way suggests they tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes, and take us to the brink of default again as part of
boehner and president obama, is that at all in the works? >> as far as we know, no. whether it's in the works, we could only hope, at this point we do not have any indication that it is scheduled right now. never mind the principles, we don't have any word that there has been communications between their staff at all. what's flying out of the public still appears to be flying out of private, which is not a lot. >> the members are going home for a nice long weekend. thanks very much for that. president obama isn't negotiating like we just heard. he's negotiating to raise the tax rates on the rich as a downpayment on a larger deal to come later as far as taxes are concerned and medicare is concerned. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top two percent, that includes all of you, yes. but not in anyway that's going to affect your spending, your lifestyles or the economy in any significant way. let's make sure that 98% of americans don't see a single dime in tax increases next year. 97% of small businesses don't see an increase in taxes next year. and by doing that alone, w
president obama and house speaker john boehner on just where talks to end the fiscal showdown stand. the president, for his part, took his case to the public and repeated his call for a tax hike on upper income americans but made little mention of cuts to entitlement spending. something the speaker said must be part of any final deal. joining the panel this week, wall street journal columnist and deputy editor dan, and ms. o'grady and washington columnist kim stossel. you are stuck in washington having to talk to all the sources. and you have been working them this week, i know. is the mood as sour as it sounds? >> it is by the end of this week and here's why. republicans came out right after the election and said to the president, you want revenue, here. you want revenue on the wealthy? we will give it to you. let's do this via limbing tax deductions for the wealthy. the president instead of taking that, running it, ceiling a deal, has been out campaigning for tax hikes. and to cap it off, sent treasury secretary tim geithner down to congress this week with this absolutely outrageo
president obama. but house speaker john boehner says it's not a series plan. >> i was flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you can't be serious. i just never seen anything like it. >> if they are going to force higher rates on virtually all americans because they are not allowing tax rates to go up rob 2% of americans that is something we will have to face. >>> attorneys for oscar grant's family -- grant was shot and killed by police officer johannes mehserle on new years day back in 2009 in two oakland civil rights attorneys will argue before the ninth circuit court of appeals in san francisco that bart police officers should not receive legal immunity. last year a federal judge ruled to let the suit go forward but the officers appealed that ruling to the ninth circuit court. >>> this is day seven of a strike by clerical workers. contract talks between the workers and shippers at the ports of los angeles and long beach have resumed. the walk out by the clerk has dramatically slowed activity at the ports. dock workers are refusing to cross the picket lines. >>> oak 4:36 now. much qu
and government spending consults on the middle class. >> creating jobs -- >> reporter: president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke on the phone wednesday but publicly are holding firm on their positions. the white house has made clear the country could go over the cliff if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the top 2% of american earners. >> to do that to 98% of the american people, because of an insistence that the wealthiest americans get a tax cut would be profoundly wrong. >> reporter: republican leaders say they will close loopholes and eliminate tax breaks but bush-era tax cuts must be extended to all americans. >> reporter: the standoff and debt concerns ryan. so much so, that he is the guy if the suit dancing gangnam style with former senator alan simpson. the group the can kicks back is working to get young people involved in fixing the debt crisis. >> we are trying to connect with our generation in a different way using humor to hook them in and get them to learn about this issue and understand how it affects their lives. >> reporter: the grassroots campaign wants to sign up
. the latest we've learned, president obama and house speaker john boehner have spoken by phone. no word on what they discussed or whether there are any meetings planned, but just the fact that they're talking seems to be progress these days here on capitol hill. >> we'll take that. tracie potts for us in washington. tracie, thanks. >>> egypt state television is reporting at least five people were killed in overnight flashes between supporters and opponents of egyptian president mohammed morsi. the street battles were the most violent since egypt's latest crisis erupted two weeks ago where morsi assumed near absolute power. the opposition is vowing more protests later today. >>> this morning, two australian radio hosts are apologizing for a prank call that's getting worldwide attention. it was made to the hospital where kate is being treated for acute morning sick sentencesness. anna bell roberts is with us. >> reporter: good morning, lynn. that's right. the latest on kate's condition is that she will remain in hospital. we're not quite sure for how much longer, but she is said to be doi
planned. yesterday's negotiations cons t consisted of a phone call between president obama and house speaker john boehner. both are still sticking so their separate plans. the president raises taxes on the top 2% to raise 1.6 billion in revenue while the gop wants to close tax loopholes to raise half as much. >> there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the same people pay more of their money to the federal government without raising tax rates. >> we can probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. but we need that breakthrough that says we need to do a balanced plan. >> the white house says they are also concerned that republicans may use the debt ceiling, which will need to be raised early next year, to get their way on tax and spending cuts. the pentagon is also preparing to make cuts if no deal is reached. the preliminary plan is to cut $500 billion in programs. the pentagon spokesman says it could force them to abandon their new military strategy. it's also likely to affect spending and military weapons. >>> melissa with some breaking news. >> at
cliff notes. today president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke on the phone about the looming budget cuts, but as of now, no evidence there's any future negotiations scheduled. a new poll by the associated press shows 48% of those asked support letting tax cuts expire january 1st for those earning more than $250,000 a year, but extending them for everybody else. just 32% say the cuts ought to be extended across the board. joining us now to talk fiscal cliff and ramifications for all of us around here in the d.c. area, virginia congress member gerry connolly, a democrat representing annandale, parts of prince herndon county, fairfax, welcome, sir. we know the arguments by now, very familiar. the president wants to cut off the tax cuts for everybody making over a quarter million. john boehner and the house republicans would rather see deductions and hoop holes closed. why are you? are you with the president wholeheartedly on this? >> well, i certainly agree with the president that we need to let the top tax bracket expire. he ran explicitly on that. there weren't a lot of expli
for the first time in days -- president obama and house speaker john boehner. it is raising new hopes for new negotiation -- they have been at a standstill since monday when the gop proposed raising revenues by closing tax loopholes, not by raising tax rates on the top earners as the president had demanded. this comes as a new poll suggests americans agree with the president. 40% want to that tax cuts expire for the wealthy. 32 percent say they should continue for everyone. more downsizing -- news from citigroup. they announce they are cutting 11,000 jobs worldwide. they're closing branches. a spokesperson says less than 1% of 3600 citibank employees in maryland will be laid off. one branch in the state will close in the glen burnie. a new annapolis fire department is getting over $200,000 in a grant from fino. congressmen -- fema. congressman judge sought -- john sarbanes said it will go to upgrading the fire station. some say fema is not that generous when it comes to aid for victims of superstore sandy. >> maryland woke up to this headline -- u.s. denies aid to more storm victims. this is
county, news 4. >> president obama and house speaker john boehner talked by telephone today about the fiscal cliff. lawmakers have until december 31st to reach a deal to avoid dramatic tax heights and budget cuts. the president wants higher taxes on people making more than $250,000 a year. to make up $1.6 trillion in 10 years. republicans want to close loopholes, make half as much money and not raise taxes. >>> businessman greg hall files an appeal. neither should get the seat. the democratic central committee has nominated hall to replace alston. the judge ruled that governor omaley will pick the next one. >> a court battle between a home contractor and an unhappy customer. a judge in fairfax county has ordered a woman, the homeowner, to remove parts of her posts on yelp and on angie's list. jane perez is the homeowner. she complained about repairs. she also claimed that some of her jewelry disappeared while the contractor had the only other key to her home. the contractor is named christopher dietz. the judge says that the woman's po posts about her jewelry goes too far and she
start with you, frank, before john boehner rejected out of hand president obama's attempt to try and do a fiscal cliff deal? >> with $1.6 trillion in new taxes, i think probably half a second. >> when you see the apparent attempt at a bipartisan lunch going on today between obama and romney, it was all very sweet and everything, the reality is the picture was about as uncomfortable as the relationship is between the two sides, and again, frank, how do we get to a better place in washington? how do we get these guys to realize, let me throw this at you. i interviewed mike tyson an hour ago. fantastic interview in many ways. what i found really fascinating and relevant to this, he talks about when he goes back to the streets he grew up in in new york, what real people care about. they care about their homes, they care about their jobs, they care about feeding their children. he got quite passionate about it. i just don't get that these politicians squabbling in d.c. care about those things enough or they would stop this politicking over things like a fiscal cliff. what do you think, frank
the advisors out and get stuff done. i just can't imagine that happening with barack obama and john boehner. they just seem complete polar opposites. >> as you suggested, obama doesn't really have an appetite for this sort of thing. we saw that last time around and if you read bob woodward's "the price of politics" it's one of the themes that comes through loud and clear. he's doing some things differently this time, though and one thing that i think is very interesting, he's taking his case to the american people and doing it day after day. all of us have talked on this show and other places about how bad the president has been in the past on selling what he wants to happen, on explaining his policies and really bringing people around to them. and we see him now trying to do that in a more forceful way than he's done in the past. and that may strengthen his hand further. >> also, do you think -- sorry. ross, do you think the deal in the end when it gets done, as it obviously will get done at some stage, do you think the republicans will by then, whether they want to or not, have moved on t
president obama and speaker boehner spoke on the phone last night, talked a lot about that even though we don't know what they discussed. the first read team says a fiscal cliff deal is in sight. what do they think the big deal will be? join our conversation on twitter. find us at @tamronhall a and @newsnation. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, ready to help. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. [ man thinking ] oh, this gas. those antacids aren't working. oh no, not that, not here! [ male announcer ] antacids don't relieve gas. gas-x is designed to relieve gas. gas-x. the gas xperts. now's a good time to think about your options. are you looking for a plan that really meets your needs? and your budget? as you probably know, me
. >> perhaps the boehner/obama phone call late today has moved things along. >> there's lots of activity looking at opposites. what we don't have right now be on -- options. what we don't have right now obviously is a meeting of the minds. this will require a difficult compromise on all sides to get the job done. >> speaker boehner sent house members home today for the rest of the week keeping negotiators in case the meeting with the president calls for more movement. >> let's bring in fox 5 political analyst mark plotkin to talk a little bit more about this. mark, are both sides do you think making a valid tempt or is it looking more and more like we're -- attempt or is it looking more and more like we're going over the cliff? >> i have no way of knowing. i will say what was left out of bob's excellent report. he referred to this meeting with ceos of the business roundtable and said look, the debt ceiling has to be automatic. we can't go through that again separate it. has to be included in the plan and the republicans have no reason to go along with that. so in some way the president i
on tax hikes for the wealthy, this following president obama and speaker boehner's first phone
. >> house speaker bane another a boehner and president obama have been talking by phone. not much progress was made. boehner says if he doesn't agree with the propose sal he has obligation to submit one of his own. >> the missing girl battling leukemia is safe and is being treated in new mexico. she was taken out of a hospital in phoenix. her mother took her. doctors are worried she could potentially get a deadly infection. the girl's father claims the hospital was to blame for a different infection which cost emily her right arm. he's refusing to tell police where she is in mexico. both parents could face criminal charges. >> shock, disgust and fear spread quickly on the campus of the university of -- one details the exact moment they realty lied they were in a major crisis. it reads subject emergency the shooter at the aurora mall last night was james holmes i am worried about the students and faculty. he had a brief romantic relationship with a fellow grad student. >> kate middleton is being treated by the queen's doctor and prince william has been seen next to her. kate also received v
and conservatives. boehner can't win. the most important poll was on november 6th. president obama ran on raising taxes on the wealthiest americans and not hitting beneficiaries of medicare, medicaid and social security. this is his leverage. >> this shouldn't be a surprise to anybody. this was a major debate in the presidential and congressional campaigns across the country. a clear majority of americans, not just democrats but also a lot of republicans and a lot of independents agreed we should have a balance approach to deficit reduction that doesn't hurt the economy and doesn't hurt middle class families. >> republicans spent the last four years saying that president obama doesn't understand the economy. voters said that they were wrong. now, john boehner has really worked himself into a position. he is really in an untenable position. he is going against the majority of americans here. he is willing to say, our ideology is more important than the way you think and the way the majority thinks in this country. you know what the democrats ought to do. they ought to resource his district. you no
2008. >>> our fourth story, showdown. house speaker john boehner today gave president obama a taste of his own medicine, putting out his own proposal for avoiding the fiscal cliff. i spoke with tom coburn this hour and he said the deal boehner's put on the table is the best compromise out there. listen. >> i'm certain that if this is not good enough for the white house, we will go over the fiscal cliff. >> if you read though, the boehner proposal carefully, no tax rate increases, which we know is a nonstarter for the president. so where does that leave us? john avlon is here to help us read through the lines of the deal, also crunch some of those numbers. first, we're talking about the $800 billion figure. that's in the letter that john boehner wrote to the president. break that down for us. >> that's right. there is no numbers breaking that down. it's a where's the beef question. bumper sticker, we have the numbers but no details. boehner's aides will say that's where the negotiations come in. the devil's in the details. they'll say look, to achieve these revenue increases by closi
since president obama and john boehner met in person. nbc news confirms two leaders spoke by phone for 15 minutes last night a call described by politico as short and curt. boehner gave his state on the current talks a moment ago. >> no substancetive progress has been made in the talks between the white house and the house over past two weeks. all eyes are on the white house. the country doesn't need a v victory lap it needs leader. >> behind the scenes of the contours of a deal are starting to take shape, a trillion plus dollars in tax heights, entitlements of $400 billion and 1.2 trillion in spending cuts to offset the dreaded sequester. if the phoners haven't been gabfests the president is chatting up other folks including small business owners, middle class americans and mitt romney-loving ceos. if awkward meetings are par for the course in washington, the president's one today takes the cake. later this hour, president obama will sit down for a post-election chitchat with the prince of awkward, the king of tilted conversation and uncomfortabled one-liners, mitt romney. is ther
. at that point i wouldn't be surprised if president obama, john boehner, and other key folks are actually locked up somewhere in maybe camp david, maybe at the white house. that's when the big talks will start. not now but in the next couple of weeks. >> back to the power move as it's described by speaker boehner. who are the strongest allies. we've seen paul ryan all but vanish here other than when we put the picture up on the committee and who is on it. who are the allies supporting speaker boehner that are team players? >> there was a criticism in the suspicion about a year ago that even some of john boehner's top deputies weren't always on board. that came about during the debt ceiling debate of 2011 where there was a lot of suspicion where eric cantor the house majority leader was on the same page with house speaker john boehner. right now as we see it seems like the republican leadership is completely unified, and that does end up bolstering john boehner's ability to make a deal or enforce discipline with the party. >> very interesting. thank you very much. governors who met with the presi
, that one day that you actually have president obama and boehner come out on the white house lawn saying they're announcing some kind of a deal, you're probably going to see a sharp rebound on the back end of it. you certainly don't want to miss out. >> jeff, what's the third thing you do? buy cans of tuna fish? >> no, i think you have to watch it. the one thing i would disagree with is i don't like dividend payers right now. i think this idea of rushing to these special dividends could come back to actually backfire on some of these companies if they're not putting their cash to good use. it's almost like they're trying to bar the door to keep investors from going out. i'm a little afraid there. i'm also afraid of munis here. on the back end of this, there's a good chance munis could lose their tax-exempt status. that could cause some problems. they've had great run here. i think they're very susceptible to talks coming from the fiscal cliff. >> i think if they took the tax-exempt status away, we'd all be in trouble. >> then what do you do? >> it's a horrible thing as far as local gover
the country needs. today we heard president obama's response to the proposal that house speaker john boehner put on the table yesterday. >> the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. >> of out of balance. kind of similar to what republicans said last week when the president sent over his terms. so now what? will they sit down and talk it through? well, not according to at least one senior republican aide who told cnn today, no conversations today, no e-mails, tweets, carrier pigeons. as for boehner and obama, they actually did see each other in person at the white house holiday party last night in black tie. while other lawmakers waited in line to get the photo with the president, multiple sources from both sides of the aisle tell cnn that boehner wasn't among them. so much for holiday cheer. we have this picture. we're wait fworg the day there's a fiscal cliff. there wasn't total silence in washington today. senate majority leader harry reid spoke up. but in his case, in the form of a swipe. >> i sympathyize with john boehner. the key party has a firm grip on the republican p
pigeons. as for boehner and obama, they actually did see each other in person at the white house holiday party last night in black tie. while other lawmakers waited in line to get the photo with the president, multiple sources from both sides of the aisle tell cnn that boehner wasn't among them. so much for holiday cheer. we have this picture. we're waiting for the day there's a fiscal cliff. there wasn't total silence in washington today. senate majority leader harry reid spoke up. but in his case, in the form of a swipe. >> i sympathize with john boehner. the key party has a firm grip on the republican party, and that's obvious, what's happened this morning here in washington. >> reporter: that disconnect in the gop was in the spotlight today. jim demint spoke out against boehner's proposal to the president. >> republicans should not be conceding that the federal government needs more money, negotiating with ourselves, and treating the president's proposal like it's serious. >> very critical of john boehner. and demint's press release aimed squarely at john boehner. $800 billion tax hi
about solving this problem. >> but of course, it takes two to tango, so where does president obama stand? >> we can probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. >> it's not that tough. he's absolutely right about that. but we heard early this evening that the president and speaker boehner did speak late today on the phone, so that's good news, but in this case, they need face time. they need to spend real time face to face. even democrats think the president needs to do more in person work on this. >> the president is not somebody who he's prioritizing evenings with his family instead of going down and having a bourbon on the rocks with some of the congressional folks. >> sometimes though, you need to do to bourbon like when the country needs you. bourbon, beer, wine, whatever, after a couple of drinks, the president and boehner could you know, pull a simpson. >> the lasso again, then the horse. the cowboys ride. the cowboys. >> that's the special beer that you would drink to get you to dance the gangnam style. president obama and john boehner did the gangnam style, your app
drink to get you to dance the gangnam style. president obama and john boehner did the gangnam style, your approval ratings might go up. "outfront" tonight, tom mcclintock of the budget committee. thank you for taking the time. we just showed a lot of your colleagues going home on a wednesday night after working a three-day week. obviously, that's an image that frustrates so many americans. why are people going home before getting this done? >> well, unfortunately, we're not using the standard process where the house passes its version, the is that the passes its version, then a conference committee is very good in revolving impasses like this between the two houses. unfortunately, none of that's being used and i think that's one of the reasons why these things are blocking down now so regularly. we've abandoned a process that works very well when we use it. >> john boehner presented a plan to the president and in that plan, he put $800 billion in revenue from the wealthy on the table. he said he would close loopholes and those people would pay more money. you were a member of the te
, president obama spoke with john boehner and eric cantor says the gop is ready to, quote, talk specific. if an agreement is not reached, defense employees will take a hard hit. almost half of the automatic cuts that would take effect will impact the department of defense and civilian employees are expected to be first to feel it. >>> new this morning, the duchess of cambridge is out of hospital and as we see in this video, just in to the newsroom, she and prince william were seen leaving about 0 minutes ago to head to kensington palace. the couple is expecting their first child and kate had been hospitalized for severe morning sickness. her stay in the hospital was uneventful except for a prank call by a pair of australian dj is pretrending to be the queen and prince charles. >>> same-sex couples in washington state line up to say i do and the state rolls out a controversial new law that legalizes smoking pot in private. >> a software giant arrested. john mcafee is at the center of an investigation into his neighbor's murder. that is not why he was taken into custody. we'll explain when
president obama and john boehner spoke for 15 minutes last night. i just bumped into a senior leader among senate democrats and asked him how he felt about this news and he said -- he was more optimistic about these negotiations today. he thought perhaps this man the speaker and the president were exchanging proposals on avoiding the fiscal cliff, john boehner has a press conference at 11:30 after his meeting with tim geithner. connell: we will speak with -- see what the speaker has to say. with all this back and forth, a decent amount of speculation that a deal is starting to take shape. look at the reporting from politico and they put numbers to its save a framework looks like this. taxes for revenue would rise by $1.2 trillion. families making them to $50,000 would see higher taxes which we have been expecting and entitlement programs would be cut by $400 billion, most coming for medicare and, quote, end of war savings peter barnes and others reported many times as being dubious because they counted the previous budget you have another trillion plus in cuts. that according to politico i
with the very latest. jessica? >> reporter: president obama has now personally turned down speaker boehner's opening offer to avert the fiscal cliff. he did it in a tv interview. what does president obama think of speaker boehner's proposal to avert the fiscal cliff? >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks about $800 billion worth of revenues but says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> reporter: he won't agree to eliminate a tax deduction for contributions to charity. >> every hospital and university and nonfor profit agency across the country would find themselves on the verge of collapse. so that's not a realistic option. >> reporter: but the president didn't say all this to speaker boehner. he said it in an interview on bloomberg tv. the last time the two men spoke was almost a week ago. president obama is focused on the stalemate with congress over averting the fiscal cliff, but he's just not talking to house republicans about it. at the white house, he discussed the issue with a bipartisa
that is scheduled to start any hour now. >>> also, we could hear president obama's response to speaker boehner's offer. he is is publicly pushing his plan to raise taxes on the wealthiest of americans. we'll bring that to you 50 minutes from now. >>> lawmakers are listening to responses of superstorm sandy. they are going to demand more funds for the cleanup. this is the third of four hearings scheduled. >>> and in houston, a history making mission to the international space station. scott kelly, the american astronaut, will speak about his next launch. if all goes as planned, it will set the longest record for a space mission for an american. we'll see what he's saying. "newsroom" starts right now. >>> good morning. thank you so much for being with us. i'm carol costello. this should be interesting. speaker john boehner is meeting with house republicans who are angry at his new pitch to raise 8$800 million in fiscal cliff negotiations. we're expecting a news conference any minute now on that meeting. we'll bring it to you live. nancy pelosi spoke about it a few hours ago. here's what she had
with ourselves. >> house speaker boehner saying that is president obama and the democrats to save you for being higher taxes. this fiscal cliff thing, the problem with the republicans, larry, is that they have been boxed in by the democrats into a difficult position where the polls confirm that the public in america believe that the reason that president obama is going to win the debate is because, come the fiscal cliff moment, that if he goes over, that they are going to save the backsides of the wealthy 2% of americans. i probably shouldn't but i do. >> speaking as a reagan conservative, i must say i rather agree with you. probably shouldn't. but i do. i think divided government is very difficult. and there's some principles that speaker boehner is fighting for, with which i actually agree. but i think politically, the risk here for the gop, is they've become the party of rich people. and they give up the middle-class to the democrats. and i think you saw some of that in the presidential election. i don't think that's their intent. i think their tax reform intent is quite sound. but the way t
negotiations rewind to 2011 when boehner and president obama came within inches of a grand bargain, a deal that would have forced both democrats and republicans to eat their vegetables. in its comprehensive analysis of what happens during the secret negotiations, matt bai wrote -- the deal unraveled in large part because speaker boehner could not get his unruly caucus to go along with raising new revenue. fast forward to this year and republicans now think that deal, the one they walked away from, sounds pretty good. they're using it as a basis for their current proposal. only problem. boehner had his chance. president obama now thinks he has the upper hand. according to the "washington post's" ezra klein, quote -- >> joining us now representative chris van hollen of maryland, ranking member of the house budget committee. great to have you on the program. >> great to be with you, alex. >> let's talk a little bit about 2011 versus 2012, which is to say, the republican party is a very different negotiating position than they were last year and as ezra outlines, it sounds like john boehner wo
on monday night. >> today house speaker john boehner rejected president obama's proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff. boehner said no progress was made. boehner accused democrats of not being serious of real spending cuts. but democrats say republicans are causing the hold up. the proposal consisted of $1.6 trillion in higher taxes, they also wanted 50 billion for infrastructure. the president in return approved spending cuts this year and legislation for saving up to $400 million for programs like medicare over a decade. >>> former rivals president obama and governor romney spoke in private. and what they said remains in private. the white house did release a photo and reported that they had white turkey chili and south western chicken salad. when romney arrived, a man ran up to him and said something. secret service quickly ran up to him. >>> imagine running the equivalent of a marathon a day. patty lee shows us what inspired a 25-year-old san francisco woman to spend the past five months making this cross country journey. >>> it took four months, 3,200 miles and 12 pairs of running shoes to
obama's proposal to avoid the fiscal cliff. boehner said no progress was made. boehner accused democrats of not being serious of real spending cuts. but democrats say republicans are causing the hold up. the proposal consisted of $1.6 trillion in higher taxes, they also wanted 50 billion for infrastructure. the president in return approved spending cuts this year and legislation for saving up to $400 million for programs like medicare over a decade. >>> former rivals president obama and governor romney spoke in private. and what they said remains in private. the white house did release a photo and reported that they had white turkey chili and south western chicken salad. when romney arrived, a man ran up to him and said something. secret service quickly ran up to him. >>> imagine running the equivalent of a marathon a day. patty lee shows us what inspired a 25-year-old san francisco woman to spend the past five months making this cross country journey. >>> it took four months, 3,200 miles and 12 pairs of running shoes to get here: but this morning kelsie harrison ran to and through mari
pavlich, appreciate the rundown. >>> both president obama and speaker john boehner took turns today finger pointing on the fiscal cliff talks. take a listen to this. >> it's not acceptable to moo a me to you for members of congress to hold middle class tax cuts to hostage simply because they don't want tax rates on upper income folks to go up. >> the white house spent three weeks trying to develop a proposal, and they send one up here that calls for $1.6 trillion in new taxes, calls for a little not even $400 billion in cuts. it was not a serious proposal. >> all right. so where are we right now? even while the fate of our fragile economy hangs in the fiscal cliff balance, for that let's turn to our distinguished guests. peter goodman. he's the huffington post business editor on a former "new york times"man. we welcome back republican congresswoman nan hayworth and haddy heath, senior policy analyst with the independent women's forum. okay. so mcconnell laughed at the tim geithner proposal. and john boehner says we're at a stalemate. and president obama himself is kind of getting ugly abou
for lawrence taylor, what about this one between president obama and speaker boehner? and like s. or you can get out there and actually like something. the lexus december to remember sales event is on. this is the pursuit of perfection. >>neil: maybe we just got ahead of ourselves. progress is looking not so good on the budget talks with ed henry at the white house with the latest. i am confused. where are we? >>reporter: santa geithner came to capitol hill and there was optimism but he came without bearing gifts and officer speaker wanted to see something on specific spending cuts. speaker boehner suggested the talks are going form right now. if there is any optimism it is the white house trying to both some life into the talks with too little bits of movement. james carney said the president is now open to spending cuts being part of the fiscal cliff talks. yesterday, the president suggested the tax changes now can be done and spending changes next year and the republicans say, not so were. second, a phone call teen the -- between the president and speaker boehner and carney said the presi
to the table. same table. either obama's table or boehner's and you talk straight. >> bill: at the table they're both there and they don't get to go to the bathroom until they get something. >> it's going to be a little faster negotiation than i thought. can we call it with that one addendum the dobbs reilly plan will be. >> bill: will be o'reilly. >> o'reilly dobz plan. -- dobbs plan. >> bill: fox business network dobbs reilly and fnc dobbs o'reilly. >> i will take it. >> bill: we can work it out. >> here it is. >> bill: all right. next on the rub down, the factor in the middle of the culture war over christmas. we'll have an update. later some harvard students have started a bondage club and they want the university to pay for it. why not? might be sadistic. coming right back. >> bill: facing to follow up segment tonight, new rasmussen survey released this week says 68% of american adults prefer the greeting merry christmas this time of year. just 23% like happy holidays. michigan federal appeals court has reversed decision that banned nativity display folks in warrant, michigan put up a cr
: that number has not moved. people are saying obama is reasonable boehner and the republicans unreasonable. easy got to make a deal in that sense, too. they're going to do the grand bargain. both sides are really, really motivated. both sides are super motivated. now really good piece of news about elizabeth warren. >> she was named to the bank committee. two senators retiring in january announced they're retirements. they were on the bank committee. the bank spent a lot of money to see her not get elected spent a lot of lobbying power to see her not named the the committee. remember, $3 million were given to scott brown by bankers in that campaign, $245,000 only to warren. >> they knocked her out of the consumer protection bureau, which was her idea. she just wants safe banking. she doesn't want banking she wants safer banking so your money is safe and they don't gamble with it. that's why the banks hate it. >> it's why smaller banks are not opposed to warren. >> that's a great point. i love that they put mention in there, hey banks we have to put elizabeth warren, but don't worry, we're
boehner will speak at any moment. his first public remarks since president obama drew a line in the sand insisting on raising tax rates on the rich. no deal without that. we hear from mr. boehner short lil' -- shortly. when he starts to speak, you will hear it live. also new at 10:00, an 8 minute cartoon video from a teacher's union in california that shows among other things a rich man urinating on the poor and the middle class. this is what the class warfare rhetoric has evolved into the formerly golden state. yep, believe me, we will have more on that later this hour with california resident mike reagan. >>> to the big board, we're right at 13,000, a gain of 51 points in the early going this wednesday morning. here's our company, charles payne is here. sandra smith is back. and nicole petallides on the floor of the new york stock exchange. and mark stein, conservative columnist supreme, author and christmas carol singer joins us as well. welcome to the program. president obama says i'm going to insist on raising tax rates on the rich. it is my opinion that the president wants to punis
movement on the cutting of spending either. peter: president obama and john boehner in front of cameras to make their cases in the battle over the fiscal cliff. the speaker said he is willing to move forward with negotiations in good faith after republicans rejected the president's first formal offer yesterday as being short on spending cuts, but it doesn't sound like anyone has put the brakes on the road to the coin. >> let's not kid ourselves. i am not trying to make this more difficult. i have been very guarded. i don't want to make it harder for me or the president or members of both parties to find common ground. >> this is not some run-of-the-mill debate, not about which political party can come out on top in negotiations and all of us get out of our comfort zones to make that happen. i am willing to do at and i am hopeful enough members of congress in both parties are willing to do that as well. >> the president's plan repeat his demand for $1.6 trillion over ten years on families making $250,000 a year and includes $400 billion in cuts, savings in medicare and medicaid and other
. enough about it and that's not influencing what's go on between john boehner, president obama, mitch mcconnell and the other folk on the hill? >> they probably have more awareness than some can imagine. but having said that, it not where it is now, it's when you get to the end when people saw what the options were and the choices were, and then they decide who they think either helped or didn't help. that's sort of the critical moment. at this point, i -- the public wanted to see this resolved is where they're at the this point. >> right. and i always say, polling at this point given how little people know about the specifics of what could go into any deal, we don't have a deal, but if we did, may not be worth all that much. go ahead. >> again, one last thing. that's what's being negotiated at this point what are the specifics that go into it so people can pass judgment on it. >> i want to go to you, we've all been through this before, i feel like this is here we go again. >> here we go again. oh yes. >> all over. >> all over again. >> it feels, to me, the optics -- i hate to use that w
of euro/dollar. obviously here reid's comments sent the euro in the risk trade back. obama/boehner comments about a possible agreement. geithner with congressional leaders would set up any kind of good news for a euro to push through that 1.30 level. >> what are your levels? >> i like to go long. actually, i just bought euro literally in my hand held before i sat down at 1.29.70. you want to look for a push through that november triple top high over 1.30. we could target the 1.30, 1.40, the high from october. traditionally in the technical analysis world we have a triple top setting up. those do not hold. i like the trade up towards a test of that october high. >> i'm surprised you don't think the yen is a better trade at the moment. there's a lot of chatter everywhere else about it. >> it's a great point, simon. you know, the boj is doing everything they can to end their 13, 15-year deflationary cycle. my thought on that is you don't get hit by the train you see coming. i feel like the market is so focused on the short yen trade, i think it could work in the short term. you could
republicans want to draw president obama into these negotiations. they want these to be about boehner and obama. last time it happened was the 2011 debt ceiling negotiations and that didn't really turn out so well. >> why would that be their aim? >> they want to make this about the president and boehner. and they think they can get a better deal that way. the pro who white house strategy is to have this happen at the staff level and the president float above it and go out and make his case to the country. as he did later in 2011 on the extension of the payroll tax holiday. they really feel that the more they have, the president sort of down on boehner's level, the worse things are going to go. >> anna marie, i want to get your take on something that democratic senator claire mccaskill said on "meet the press," about the choice that republicans face. take a listen. >> they're going to get stuck with a raising of the rates of the top 2%. either in a very painful way. or in a way that we can all suffer a little bit. address all three legs of the stool. entitlements, cuts, and revenues, i
, the markets move very aggressively. yes, there is a case in point where boehner and obama said there was progress that could be made towards a compromise. the markets turn around to 220 points on the dow. but on 20 points and the dow having been down 110 closed up 106 points. that's because john boehner said they could well be some progress on a compromise. that flies in the face of harry reid saying little progress is made. that is what is driving the u.s. markets and the global markets as well. the fed's beige book says there is a tepid growth. you have the housing market against that manufacturing and superstorm sandy. interesting stats expected out of the auto sectors. this could be good news. we think there may ab a pace of somewhere in the region of 15.2 million cars sold in november. the fact is that americans got very old fleet of cars. the average age of car now is 11 years old. it's 20% of the cars on the road are 16 years old. maybe renewing the cars is a big factor. great numbers for abercrombie and fitch, the shares are up 15%. this is a very well received set of n
rate increases are a nonstarter. >> it just seemed like mr. obama was dissing mr. boehner on the difference between cap rates and deductions. >> i guess my other point isser skin bowls, he comes out of a white house, businessman's meeting today, and said that maybe baum will be flexible and it will only being 37%, 38%. is at that what they mean by common ground? >> i don't think that gets threw. i mean, speaker bainor, other republican leaders have laid out parameters of what republicans can't up to water. >> you only raise $68 billion next year. that's enough to fund the government for less than a week. this does not solve the problem. and you do it at the expense of economic growth, which ultimately should be the goal here. if we want to solve deficits and debt problems, get the economy growing and expanding again, that generates more revenue by comparison. >> let me just ask you a final question. what in your judgment is a key common ground concession that you as a republican -- if you were in the leadership would make to move this ball down the road snp i lot of people
>>> the news nation is following the exchange of fire. president obama and speaker john boehner are locked in a whatever words this afternoon one day after republicans rebuffed the president's first proposal to overt the so-called fiscal cliff. first up, the president. the president who traveled to a toy company in pennsylvania today to call on congress to extend tax cuts for the middle class. president obama playing a little hardball accusing republicans of playing politics at the expense of american families. >> it's not acceptable to me and i don't think it's acceptable to for you republicans to hold tax cuts hostage because they don't want rates on upper folks to go up. >> john boehner scheduled a last minute news conference. fired back with this. >> increasing tax rates draws money away from our economy that needs to be invested in our economy to put the american people back to work. it's the wrong approach. >> as the rhetoric heats up, the clock continues to tick down. after today, there are just ten legislative days on the calendar. the house announced they will be recess
a sense from obama and boehner there is any compromise at this point. >> well, not now. this may be the week to shout at each other. maybe the it next two weeks are the weeks to get beyond shouting and come together. i think you're right on the dynamic. this in the end everybody seems to agree a deal with boehner. others are players. those are the two main players and they have to figure out how to get things done. tracy: like war of the roses. gerry seib, washington bureau chief of "the wall street journal." thank you, gerry. good stuff. >> thank you very much. ashley: coming up stunning new numbers where america's tax burden hits the hardest. liz macdonald will be here next with that story. tracy: ashley mentioned it earlier, drought conditions turning worse around the country. how will it impact your grocerisy bill if it isn't high enough? as we do every time this time of day see how oil is trading. up slightly. $88.91 a barrel. we'll be right back tracy: so president obama continuing to push tax hikes on the rich as part of the big fiscal cliff deal but will raising taxes on
somewhere north of $1 trillion which is basically the difference between boehner's position and obama's position. it includes medicare cuts, entitlement cuts that are at least $400 billion. remember dick durbin on your show earlier in the week put that $400 billion marker down. democrats privately tell us they'll go higher, perhaps much higher if republicans get serious on raising taxes. they'll cut spending by about $1.2 trillion, which is the total of sequestration. and they'll probably have to throw in a debt limit increase to avoid hitting that in february. people involved in the talks feel like they can get there. there's no doubt it's going to take some time, boehner has to get republicans more comfortable with raising taxes including raising rates. i don't think there's a scenario where the rates don't go up on people making over $250,000. and democrats have to get more comfortable with entitlement changes. but at the end of the day, obama can deliver democrats. and i think boehner's stronger today than he was three months ago, and he could deliver more republicans than he coul
in the clip in the opening, president obama is insisting a balanced approach and we've talked about this before, balance is in the eye of the beholder. john boehner would say this is a balanced approach, we're putting revenue on the table as well as entitlement cuts. president obama seems to be indicating balance means getting more from the wealthy and likely to mean raising rates. as he said today and prior to today, the math doesn't add up if you simply close loopholes, cap deductions, do those sorts of things. we're sort of where we always have been. it's where we have been for several years at least when it relates to congress and the president simply not being able to resolve what are fundamental differences. we talked about this before the election, andrea. the election was supposed to tell us something about what the american public wanted. president obama did win the election. you know, an event has happened as part of the many months where the public comes down on this. >> luke russert, john boehner did yesterday come out with their proposal, the house proposal. is that a n
of sponsoring your breakfast and all, sponsor a weekly dinner between obama and boehner and everyone would agree to pay for it and let them just talk and get to know each other and see, you know, it's -- >> how much -- >> oh, that's right. what do you think? >> i think that's a great idea. [inaudible] a special room. >> i'm not sure -- [inaudible] >> yeah, okay, but, well, you know, but, i, you know, personal relationships, when john was the fbi spokensman, he was not helpful, but you could talk to him, get him on the phone, and if you had a good story, he'd confirm it by laughing, a deep laugh meant you were on the right track. no laughter meant no. [laughter] >> now, it looks like the tide is very much going against republicans. do you agree with that? >> well, no. i think in the short political term, yes. polling shows republicans will be blamed. remember, this is the obama era. it's going to go down as his economy. i ask people who was speaker of the house during the great depression when roosevelt was president. i'll give a hundred dollars to anyone who can name who the speaker of the house
. president obama and house speaker john boehner spoke on the phone about the situation yesterday. among the major sticking points is republican support for continuing tax cuts for the wealthiest americans, something mr. obama disagrees with. >> we could probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. but we need that conceptual breakthrough that says we need a balanced plan. that's what's best for the economy. that's what the american people voted for. that's how we're going to get it done. >> mr. obama's treasury secretary, tim geithner, went a step further, saying that the president would allow the nation to go over the fiscal cliff at the end of the year, if republicans don't agree to raise taxes on the wealthy. >>> and maybe abraham lincoln can help the fiscal cliff negotiations. harry reid believes so. the senate will get inspiration when reid hosts a clescreening the spielberg movie. >> whatever helps to get things moving, right? >>> hundreds of same-sex couples in washington state lined up overnight to get a marriage license now that they can legally wed. the county cle
might be stuck. a senior administration official told us that president obama and john boehner had a phone wallace night and politico was reporting that the phone call was curt. they said on the call john boehner told the president to leave the tax cuts for the rich alone. the president says he doesn't want to do that. he's going to stick with his plan to raise $1.6 billion in revenue and if republicans have something better they should be specific now. eric cantor said republicans are already going further than they did in the same spot in 2010. >> we have done our part. we have put revenues on the table, something we didn't do two years ago during the debt ceiling negotiations. >> we've seen some positive developments in the last several weeks, in terms of what republicans have been saying about the need for revenue as part of a balanced package. the president will continue to make the case that that is essential. >> reporter: so both sides saying revenue is on the table, now the fight is obviously to figure out where it's going to come from, how the government is going to make m
warner. at 9:00 eastern, president obama and house spear jaub boehner and spoke about the fiscal cliff today. republicans might be willing to agree to higher tax rates on the wealthy in january. house speaker calling on the obama administration to respond to the republicans' deficit proposal. president obama is at 9:00 eastern followed by speaker boehner. >> this weekend on c-span 3's american history tv, follow harry truman's eldest grandson to japan. >> everybody has their own view what happened and i don't want to argue survival to anyone in japan about the history. we're past that. and my whole purpose for being here is to listen to the living and to do what i can. >> sunday at 9:00 p.m. eastern on c-span 3. >> the supreme court will look at what was passed in 2008 by a majority of 6-3 i believe and going to say that is precedent. and indiana had a -- >> they decided on the indiana case. it was constitutional for them to establish i.d. they did not say that all of those states -- >> correct, they talked about indiana. let me finish because you misrepresented what i said. >> no, i d
. but, of course, everybody is talking about shared sacrifice from president obama to john boehner to governor herbert of utah. their version of fixing the fiscal cliff is that acceptable shared version. >> reed wilson, thank you for being with me. i appreciate it. we're going to be right back on msnbc right after this. [ female announcer ] you know exactly what it takes to make them feel better. ♪ you make me happy [ female announcer ] that's why you choose children's tylenol. the same brand your mom trusted for you when you were young. ♪ how much i love you [ humming ] [ female announcer ] children's tylenol, the #1 brand of pain and fever relief recommended by pediatricians and used by moms decade after decade. [ humming ] bp has paid overthe people of bp twenty-threeitment to the gulf. billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working
cuts on the middle class. president obama and house speaker john baner -- john boehner spoke wednesday but publicly are holding firm on their positions. it's made clear the country could go over the cliff if congress fails to come to a agreement. the standoff and the country's skyrocketing debt concerned ryan ryan, so much so that he's the guy in the suit dancing gangnam style with former senator alan simpson. the can kicks back is working to get young people back to fixing the debt crisis. >> we're using humor to hook them in and get them to learn about this issue and understand how it affects their lives. >> reporter: the grass roots campaign wants to sign up more than two million people to put pressure on both sides. danielle nottingham, cbs news, washington. >>> 9news now is talking to our local congressional members about the fiscal cliff. and tonight at 7:00 p.m., maryland senator ben cardin will join derek mcginty in our studio. last night virginia democrat jerry connolly stopped by and the 11th district representative stressed that there is room for compromise on his party's si
comments made by president obama and house speaker john boehner, both expressing optimism on fiscal cliff negotiations in the washington. in a new report from the congressional budget office it says more than half a trillion has been spent on jobless benefits over the past five years. $520 billion in jobless benefits in five years. also part of the debate, whether to extend the deadline to file for additional unemployment benefits beyond the end of the year. spending on food stamps is rising. nearly 15 million households received food stampses in 2011, up 10% from the year before according to new data from the census bureau. it shows you the far reach of the government right now in the safety net in supporting american families. all of that at the core of the debate of what's happening with the fiscal cliff. >>> $7 coffee. starbucks thinks you will pay. coffee connoisseurs can pay $7 for a grande cup of costa rica fincapalamara. it's called mucho deneiro. cultivated from a central american bean known as geisha. it is extremely difficult to produce. the same america who spends $7 on lotter
president obama's own self- described architecture of $3 in spending cuts for every dollar in new revenue. we are prepared to work and call on the white house to do the same thing. >> speaker boehner, president obama, the white house projection last offer -- \[inaudible] 53% of americans will blame republicans in congress if you go over the fiscal cliff. how long can you have that hard above. -- how long can you afford politically to have those tax cuts? >> america faces a very serious problem and our goal is to make sure it gets solved. we have a debt problem that is out of control. we have got to cut spending and i believe it is appropriate to put revenues on the table. the receive news we are putting -- of the revenues we are putting from, guess who? the rich. there are ways to limit deductions, close loopholes and have the same people pay more -- more of their money to the federal government without raising the tax rates which we believe will harm our economy. >>\[inaudible question] >> i think our members understand the seriousness of faces. trillion dollar deficits for as far as the
. this comes on the heels of a phone call between president obama and speaker boehner which occurred credit. my sources are telling me the phone call lasted for about a half an hour. politico described it as curt, but may sources say that's not necessarily the case. so of course treasury secretary tim geithner coming in to the hill trying to move the needle on the fiscal cliff and we're hearing that there are sort of broad outlines of a framework emerging. but of course they really need to put some meat on the bones. what does that mean in terms of increasing taxes and cutting medicare. to those are some of the issues being hammered out today. >> kristen, thank you so much. so as we said, it is tim geithner's day on the hill. is this a sign that talks are being accelerating or hitting stumbling blocks? joining me now senator kent conrad. sir, great to have you here. we showed the headline at the top of the show, from politico, the fiscal framework emerging. are the contours of the deal really taking shape? you heard kristen welker saying the description of that phone conversation may not have b
for here? >> let's not forget that neither president obama more speaker boehner have all that much running room. there are conservative republicans who are not going to vote for whatever deal is reached. there are liberal democrats in the house who are not iffing to vote for whatever deal is reached. the question is there a path in vote for whatever deal is reached. the question is there a pating vote for whatever deal is reached. the question is there a patng t vote for whatever deal is reached. the question is there a patging vote for whatever deal is reached. the question is there a patoing vote for whatever deal is reached. the question is there a path that -- where their interests intersect closely snuff? >> i want to get to 2016. it's been ages since we talked about the presidential election because what caught my fancy was that congressman ryan and senator rubio are both going to be at the center, as you guess, i believe rubio or ryan, one of them, is receiving the award. 2016 came to mind. if you are looking at either -- whichever one catches your fancy, the democratic landscape or
will talk to neil cavuto about that. and the idea of putting president obama and john boehner on tv together and televising the debt talks. lori: microsoft's efforts is all coming down to the price tag. we will show you some interest rates as we head to break. 164 on the ten year. ♪ [ male announcer ] this is amy. amy likes to invest in the market. she also likes to ride her bike. she knows the potential for mang or losing money can pop up anytime. that's why she trades with the leader in mobile trading. so she's always ready to take action, no matter how wily... or weird... or wonderfully the market's behaving... which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritre. >> i have your fox business brief. manufacturing activity unexpectedly contracted last month falling to its lowest level in three years. it fell to 49.5. larger than expected drop. on the flip side, you as builders boosted their construction spending in october by their largest about sids may. it rose nearly 1.5. morningstar foods unit is being sold for $1.5 billion. the deal will help boost its presence in the
approach. >> reporter: boehner and president obama said they are optimistic that a deal can be reached by christmas. >>> turning overseas to egypt, where opponents of president mohamed morsi are calling for a second revolution. morsi is addressing his people today. a speech in which he's expected to discuss his move last week to seize near absolute power. thousands have been on the streets of cairo protesting that move since. morsi is showing no signs, though, of backing down. >>> and with the conflict in syria showing no signs of ending, the obama administration is reportedly considering deeper intervention there. this morning's "new york times" says no decisions have been made. but several options are being looked at, including providing arms to anti-government fighters. a decision on whether to deploy surface-to-air missiles in neighboring areas is likely next week. >>> and a major milestone is expected at the u.n. today, when the general assembly votes to give statehood to the palestinians. this comes despite strong opposition for u.s. officials over fears that such a move could ha
-minute phone conversation yesterday between president obama and house speaker john boehner. both sides describe that conversation, scott, as direct and candid. those are words custom early reserved for diplomacy between sworn adversaries and tonight that might be where we are. >> pelley: major, thanks very much. now, have a look at these two pictures. president obama and mitt romney at the final debate, the last time they shook hands, until today, when the president hosted a kind of "bury the hatchet" lunch at the white house. the two men promised to work together on shared concerns if the opportunity arises. the united nations voted overwhelmingly this afternoon to recognize the palestinian territories as a state. something palestinians have as a sight. something palestinians have sought for generations, but a diplomatic setback for the u.s. and israel. th the territories on the west bank, the jordan river, and along the gaza strip are home to palestinians displaced by the war that created israel in 1948. today's vote doesn't create an independent palestine. that would have to come in
obama and house speaker john boehner have resumed informal talks. they spoke by phone yesterday raising some hopes that formal talks will resume on how to avoid the new year's day "fiscal cliff." across-the-board spending cuts and tax increases as we all know will kick in if a budget agreement isn't reached by the end of the month. the president also met with ceos of some of the nation's largest companies hoping to convince them of the need for higher tax rates at upper income levels. >> we're not insisting on rates just out of spite or out of any kind of partisan bickering but, rather, because we need to raise a certain amount of money. >> house majority leader eric cantor says more needs to be done about spending right now. >>> meanwhile, public policy polling conducted an unusual survey to test american knowledge about debt reduction policy. people were asked what they thought of the panetta burns planning, something that doesn't even exist. one-fourth of the people took a stance on it anyway. 8% are in support by golly. 17% opposed. >> that's right. it's important to do research. >>
. the market practically hugging every word that comes out of washington whether it is president obama making comments, speaker john boehner, harry reid, the market tanks and any signs of disagreement. don't fret, next guest is here to tell you about how to behave in this atmosphere in a way he believes will make you money. joining me now in a fox business should listen. what are you teaching your employees, your traders, what are you telling them to do right now? >> you have to be communicating with your clients, you cannot trade this as an individual trader. you have to be prepared there is a decline, what will happen if congress recesses without a bridge to get us over the fiscal cliff the market will go down precipitously perhaps 1000 points and it will be the markets way to say let's come back, you made the mistake like they did four years ago. tracy: the market dropped 1000 points or what have you, get in? >> to be a generational buying opportunity. this is based on congressional ineptitude. the fact is the economy has a tail wind, the market is fundamentally attracted, the valuations a
obama and speaker boehner spoke on the phone yesterday for the first time in days. both men agreed not to publicly characterize how the conversation went. but the stalemate in negotiations entered new territory yesterday with treasury secretary tim geithner suggesting the white house is ready to go off the cliff if republicans refuse to raise taxes on the 2%. >> if republicans do not agree to that, is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. again, there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans -- remember, it's only 2%. the size of the problem in some sense is so large, it can't be solved without rates going up as part of that. again, i think there's broad recognition of that reality now. >> one fallback option republicans are reportedly considering is to accept tax cuts for the middle class, allow rates to go up for the wealthiest, and then start the fight over again during debt limit talks early next year. yesterday at a business roundtable of ceos, president obama took a
boehner and president obama to work out a deal? >> 24 hours. >> yeah. >> about 24 hours. boehner has the deal in his head he wants. his problem is he's trying to figure out how he gets that deal, not just in the room but then out of the room. with his caucus. and that's just the reality of it. i mean, you've got, again, republicans feel burned on this. republicans also feel engaged on it simply because that's what they ran on. and that's been a big part of the fiscal argument for republicans for the last two or three years has been controlling the spending, the size and growth of government. controlling the ability of the government to confiscate more of your wealth, to trust more on the middle class and the working class, small business owners. and that's really kind of the link. and that argument, you talked about being primaried, that's the central primary argument that will be -- hit them upside the head in two years when they run is wait a minute. we sent you to control spending, yet you increased taxes. it's not increasing taxes on the wealthy, it's just blanketly you increase
-- >> the a nall sis you read, it comes down to john boehner and president obama. i will reed an excerpt from pegeny noonan in the "wall street journal" would disagree with melissa this is not the old-school politic s yore. beggy writes -- when fire logs burned without fire starters and apple pies were baked in everybody's home. >> not sold in costco. >> if only everything could be like ronald reagan. >> and tip o'neill. >> the thing is, and i think it is true that -- i know peggy noonan likes the grand er and everything grand, but the senate isn't so relevant. this being a budget and tax bill they can do reconciliation. this is a house problem. the difference is that tip o'neill actually had influence with his caucus. john boehner has precious influence with the part of his caucus the most recalcitrant on these issues. in the current lame duck congress john boehner still has the same problem, resistant people who will not go along with a deal so the question is, whether or not he can deliver even the 20 or 25 votes he needs if pelosi did what she always does and delivers her caucus and how
to be struck between president obama and speaker boehner. and those are really the two people to watch. and their staffs right now. of course, mitch mcconnell will play a key role in bringing around senate republicans, excuse me. but it's really between the house republicans and the white house at this point. you know, we have to watch and see what they do. i think there's a lot of public posturing. but i do think that all these people have been at this table before. they're very familiar with the contours of what they will agree to from the debt ceiling negotiations. and so it's really just a matter of getting closer and closer to that deadline, having the markets start to freak out and then realizing that they have to come up with something. >> seems like there's a lot of public theater going on with this one. >> quickly on michael's point, if the mandates for compromise, accusing the democrats of being wealth destroyers probably doesn't move the compromise needle very far. >> michael, zachary, nancy, thanks to all three of you. i appreciate it. >>> developing now, this story we need
, no? >> i think right after the election that was the message that even president obama and john boehner and the entire leadership, we saw that incredible image of the minority and majority leaders on both houses come out saying things that sounded like they were going to cooperate. but, you know, only in washington can that mean nothing quickly. but i do think, look, let's put this in perspective. we have a game of chicken going on here with a lot of posturing. there's 30 days to get this done, which for washington time it's like dog years. it's an eternity. one day counts for seven. when they want to get something done, they can get it done. but i think right now you're seeing a lot of public posturing to get the best offer possibly out of the other side. >> l.z.? >> you know, i spent the past couple days out in long beach at the victory fund initiative for lbjt leaders and talked to a lot of members who work in congress as well other congressional aides and ana is right, it's a lot of posturing and a lot of time. to the rest of us american people when we hear, oh, 30 days lef
is at when the ball drops. president obama rejected speaker boehner's $2.2 trillion plan saying there's no deal without tax hikes for the wealthy. in an interview with bloomberg news warned about gamesmanship hurting the economy. >> i think america is poised to take off. and the question is, let's make sure we don't have a self-inflicted wound because there are silly games played up on capitol hill. >> let's bring in our wednesday gaggle. non-dcors. i'm curious what you think. nancy gibbs, deputy managing editor for "time" magazine and director editor of msnbc david wolfe. he's a new yorker now. eroll, let me start with you. watching what we're doing down in washington, does anybody outside of washington care? >> very much so. very much so. >> new york is paying attention because of all you wall street people. >> wall street and the defense cuts. there's a lot riding on it and a lot as far as people's preferences. the state votes for the president, the state votes for a president who said he was going to do certain things. you sort of wanted to see him at least get it done, get a clea
a >> that doesn't have the classic -- >> when do president obama and john boehner do the gangnam style dance and then we'll be in a better place. >> you know, i want to say quickly, that reminds me of al simpson doing that, say what you will about him. he has a showman's flare. when he retired from the senate in 1996, he came up to the kennedy school in cambridge and he was working there with robert reich and got together and pitched a public television show. it's alan simpson's 6'7", robert reich, 4'10" and called it the long and the short of it. >> i know you're not making it up. >> comedy and politics, road trips. i watched it! senior in high school. i even attended a taping. >> last question. will you boldly go on the record right now and right here to support a common sense solution. >> everyone has a different deaf situation of common sense. that's too easy. >> neil irwin, thank you for joining us. >>> ahead, washington may be stuck in the neutral but the rest of the country is moving forward. new numbers of pot and gay marriage will have you talking. it's in the spin cycle as we roll
goldman of bloomberg news obama called the boehner plan quote out of balance. >> i think that we have the potential of getting a deal done, but it's going to require what i talked about during the campaign which is a balanced responsible approach to deficit reduction that can help give businesses certainty and make sure that the country grows. and unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks for example about $800 billion worth of revenues but he says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> rose: and here is the president talking about why it's essential for him that there be tax increases for the most wealthy among us. >> i don't think that the issue right now has to do with sitting in a room. the issue right now that's relevant is the acknowledgment that if we're going to raise revenues that are sufficient to balance with the very tough cuts that we've already made and further reforms and entitlements that i'm prepared to make, that we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're
. >>> and house speaker john boehner discussed fiscal strategies with president barack obama in a phone call. this comes as another republican is ready to break ranges. he said he could support president barack obama's demand for an increase in tax rates as part of a comprehend sufficient plan -- comprehensive plan to cut the federal deficit. some are looking for ways to save faces a they give in. >>> and maintenance costs, used by state lawmakers, at least a douse member of the legislature had repairs on those vehicles and repairs were made before lawmakers used them for their personal use. in any case the costs were thousands of dollars. >> only state in the country finally ended this program and they saw some abuse and they saw voters did not like the program and that it was a perk they could give up. >> starting this year, lawmakers are not issued any cars anymore instead they are. >> paid a moulin rate -- mileage rate for using their own vehicles. >>> now here is a look at items where they recently confiscated them from the burglary ring. investigators have arrested two brothers and a w
rice. we will take a close look coming up next. and president obama keep saying the same thing. speaker boehner keeps asking for the same thing. we will be talking with one of more than 200 congressman who have signed the grover norquist antitax pledge. lou: congressional republicans pushing back hard against the president and democrats over the fiscalliff proposal. the white house saying that the real problem is republicans who won't give in on new taxes for top earners. my next guest sound grover norquist and his anti-tax pledge concerning. congressman nunes, it is great to have you with us. >> this little visit i timothy geithner to speaker boehner, in which he bsically says we are going to talk about stimulus -- that is pretty hard step to push or to stomachh isn't? >> yes, timothy geithner has been coming here for four years. he has come before the ways and means committee, before the budget committee. this guy has never told us the truth and we challenged them for years. the numbers don't add up, and that is the problem. he came here today and it was a waste of time. we shove the
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